Canyon County Fair - http://www.canyoncountyfair.org/  Go to the website for all the details including ticket info, musical acts (including Three Dog Night and Sawyer Brown).  The fair continues through July 27.

Rock the mountain - Head to the mountains for some ROCK music in Centerville near Grimes Creek.  Check out all the details at http://rockthemountain.com/

Go to Emmett for their version of "Art in the Park."  Event is all day Saturday from 9-5 at the Emmett City Park.

Interested in dancing?  Try this one... Poi Dancing -- the ancient art of Polynesian fire dancing - in Camel's Back Park.  Hallie Rainbow is teaching the class.  5 pm on Saturday.  (Please just don't set the hills on fire!!!  Wouldn't that be a nice headline in Sunday's paper???  LOL!) http://hallierainbow.blogspot.com/

 Have a little princess in the house?  Then go up to Garden Valley and catch Starlight Mountain Theater's production of Cinderella.  These productions are family friendly and a blast for all ages.  http://www.starlightmt.org/

Head to the Idaho Botanical Gardens on SUNDAY for Family Day.  Gardens are open from 10-6 but at 2pm there is a special Japanese Drumming performance.  http://www.idahobotanicalgarden.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=feature.display&feature_id=149

Need to cool off?  KTSY is hosting a "Christmas in July" family day at Idaho Ice World.  Christmas music, presents, Santa...the works!  SUNDAY from 12:30 - 4.  http://www.895ktsy.org/pages/events/ice-skating.shtml

Jazz at the Winery - 1 - 4:30 Ste. Chappelle Winery

Free music concert at the Redfish Lodge near Stanley from 4-8pm. http://www.musicfromstanley.blogspot.com/

I decided it was really time for me to do some actual research. So, after blow-drying my laptop, I got to examining my Appling ancestors from Tuscaloosa Co, Alabama. The Applings married into my Stanley family (my Mom was a Stanley). I have so many surnames in Tuscaloosa County that the county just needs to be renamed, I think.  Would the Post Office approve of Stanley-Appling-Chappell-Davis County, Alabama? Probably not, too many letters.

Anyway, I may have discovered another surgeon in the family. Francis B Appling has been listed in some records as Dr Franics B Appling. The father-in-law of my second great grandaunt Brazora Stanley, Frank Appling is listed in the Southern Claims Commission Records, so I am trying to find documentation of Civil War service as a Union surgeon. He would have been about 30 when the War started. Interestingly, in 2 later census enumerations, he is listed as disabled...

Homem-macaco: a aurora do homem

Não lembro exatamente da primeira vez em que escutei o nome do filme 2001: Uma Odisséia no Espaço, mas, certamente eu ainda usava calças curtas (usava?) e estava mais preocupado em assistir Jaspion e A Caverna do Dragão do que fazer qualquer outra coisa. Eventualmente, também nesta época, dividia o tempo entre um ou outro passeio junto com minha avó paterna que me criou até os 7 ou 8 anos, já que meus pais trabalhavam quatrocentas horas por dia. Na TV, lembro da primeira Guerra do Golfo, das novelas da Globo e, inevitavelmente, do programa da Xuxa. Essa polaca-cor-de-camarão que saiu de um filme proibido de Walter Hugo Khouri para me abusar sexualmente a cabeça com suas coxas desnudas e sua nave estelar tosca de papel crepom. Se era difícil conhecer o filme, imagine o diretor: nem pelo sagrado Daileon eu saberia quem era esse judeu.

Mas, como a gente cresce e os interesses mudam, a primeira vez em que 2001 sorriu para mim eu tinha 18 anos e estava na casa da avó da minha primeira namorada. Esse sorriso vale também para o ano, já que essa era a exibição do filme na virada do milênio, no dia 31 de dezembro de 2000. Tudo o que eu sabia até então se resumia aos macacos: "o filme dos macacos". Já tinha topado com ele outras vezes, em apresentações semelhantes, mas nesta idade eu nutria um forte sentimento por experiências não muito longas e que rendessem um prazer acachapante inigualável a qualquer outra coisa, se é que me entendem. Algum tempo depois, pouco antes da faculdade e definitivamente seqüestrado pelo cinema resolvi dar as caras para o filme e o assisti, finalmente. Não entendi quase nada do que tinha assistido, mas sabia que era grandioso demais para minha cabeça adolescente. A única coisa que eu disse foi: "Que porra é essa?". E foi isso. Durante os últimos anos assisti ao filme incansavelmente na esperança de entender uma pequena porcentagem a mais de cada vez. Com a ajuda de alguns livros é possível, além de entendê-lo, tecer algumas ramificações que extrapolam a obra e revelam inspirações de Kubrick, bem como servem para atestar que ficção científica não é feita só de monstros e efeitos especiais. O mais importante desses livros é de Amir Labaki, com o mesmo nome do filme e editado pela Publifolha em 2000, do qual tiro grande parte das informações deste texto.

No então remoto ano de 1948, Stanley Kubrick já tinha uma certa carreira de fotógrafo na revista Look e casava com sua primeira esposa. Enquanto isso, Arthur C. Clarke, um especialista em radares da Segunda Guerra, criador do conceito de satélite geoestacionário e ávido fã de ficção científica inscrevia uma de suas histórias curtas, A Sentinela, em um concurso literário realizado pela BBC de Londres. Quase vinte anos depois, Clarke já era um escritor consagrado da ficção científica, celebrado principalmente pelo conto O Fim da Infância, de 1953. Nesta época Kubrick já havia lançado Spartacus, Lolita e acabara de finalizar Dr. Fantástico. Embora se saiba que o diretor nutria curiosidade pelos filmes ambientados no espaço desde 1957, foi só em 1964 que Kubrick e seu agente Roger Caras discutiram alguém para colaborar com o roteiro de um projeto propriamente dito. Caras logo aconselhou procurar o melhor e em 20 de maio do mesmo ano Arthur C. Clarke assinou contrato com Stanley Kubrick a cerca dos direitos de sete contos e histórias curtas, incluindo A Sentinela.

Convencido por Clarke de que A Sentinela fornecia um material narrativo mais rico, Kubrick concordou em utilizá-la como a fonte primordial para o que seria o inicio do projeto de 2001. A estória de nove páginas relatava a primeira vez em que o homem encontrava com uma prova de vida inteligente no universo, antes da existência de vida na Terra. Esse seria o ponto central de 2001: Uma Odisséia no Espaço, título sugerido por Kubrick um ano depois do inicio do projeto. Há ainda a adição de uma outra novela de Clarke, Encounters in the Dawn, que corresponde ao primeiro ato de 2001, A Aurora do Homem. Os dois concordaram também em uma parceria para desenvolver ao mesmo tempo um romance e depois um roteiro que daria vida ao filme. Depois de várias reuniões, o roteiro ficou pronto em dezembro de 1965 e pouco depois começaram as filmagens nos estúdios da MGM em Shepperton, perto de Londres. Um mês depois Clarke terminou o romance e Kubrick tomaria 1966 e 1967 com filmagens e pós-produção. O filme ficaria pronto para as telas somente um mês antes do lançamento em 1968. No entanto, filme e livro revelariam experiências bem diferentes uma da outra.

De cara, a maior diferença relatada até mesmo por Kubrick e Clarke entre o romance e o filme é a explicação. Enquanto o livro de Clarke explica demasiadamente todos os acontecimentos, como convém à literatura, Kubrick optou por imbuir 2001 de uma aura de arte, grandiosidade e uma notória "falta" de texto. Das mais de duas horas e meia de filme, existem pouco mais de 40 minutos de diálogos. É como se tivéssemos, exemplarmente distintos a história do livro, a do roteiro e a que está na tela. E é claro que, conhecendo o estilo e a obsessão de Kubrick pela experiência cinematográfica, o filme teve pelo menos uma mão cheia de versões antes de seu diretor o declarar pronto para projeção. Até mesmo após a apresentação especial para executivos do estúdio Kubrick cortou várias cenas ao longo do filme que "o explicavam demais". Depois das primeiras sessões de lançamento cortou mais 17 minutos, e mesmo assim, ele não perdeu significado. Em contrapartida, talvez tenha ganhado em quesito obra-prima. Devo louvar essa decisão, pois filmes "explicados" acabam com a experiência sensorial da obra cinematográfica e o torna um produto barato da teoria hipodérmica (nossa! De onde veio isso?).

A recepção não foi das melhores e a crítica especializada dividiu opiniões à cerca do que tinha visto na tela. Ocorreram as mais diversas reações como gente deixando as salas e até mesmo algumas risadas dependendo das atitudes dos macacos na tela, no inicio do filme. Logo, Kubrick viu seu filme taxado de vazio, pretensioso, grotesco e amador. Sobretudo a crítica defendia que o diretor deveria ter usado "mais palavras". Dias depois, no New York Times, em entrevista a William Kloman, Kubrick não fez referência a nenhuma crítica específica, apenas disse, com muita elegância: "Isso, claro, é parte da psicologia de resenhadores presos à palavra. Há certas áreas da realidade, ou da irrealidade, ânsia interior, chame isso como quiser, que são inacessíveis a palavras". É claro que, paralelamente, o filme também despertava ótimas críticas positivas. Mas, a verdadeira intenção do cineasta tinha sido alcançada. Ele queria fazer "uma experiência intensamente subjetiva que alcançasse o espectador em níveis muito íntimos de consciência, como a música faz".

Para isso Kubrick se armou de uma gama de influências que foram providenciais para o sucesso de 2001. Uma delas está em a Odisséia, referida já no título e ao longo da jornada homérica do herói Bowman à "Júpiter e Além do Infinito". Outra está na idéia mitológica de que todo o herói constitui a elipse da volta para casa, enraizada na obra do antropólogo Joseph Campbell em O Heróis das Mil Faces. Mas, a volta de Bowman, no entanto, é acompanhada de uma transformação radical. É nesta transformação que está a mais forte referência de Kubrick, que começa exatamente na música, quando ele evoca a filosofia de Nietzsche a partir da sinfonia Assim Falou Zaratustra, leitura de Richard Strauss para a obra literária homônima. A transformação do homem ao longo do filme acompanha a teoria evolutiva humana de Nietzsche. Essa tal obra, fundamental para compreender a filosofia nietzscheana do super-homem é, assim como 2001, dividida em três atos: o do homem-macaco, a do homem como conhecemos hoje e a do super-homem. Vemos no filme respectivamente A Aurora do Homem, a epopéia de naves especiais dançando ao som de Danúbio Azul, e o aparecimento da estrela embrionária. Dessa forma, Nietzsche explica: " E o grande meio-dia será quando o homem se achar na metade de sua trajetória entre o animal e o super-homem e festejar o seu caminho para a noite como a sua mais alta esperança. [...] o que há de grande, no homem, é ser ponte, e não meta: o que pode amar-se, no homem, é ser uma transição e um ocaso.".

Kubrick deixa mistérios no ar como se soubesse de algo que todos os outros não sabiam sobre a jornada da vida humana. Inteligência artificial, a evolução do homem, a relação do homem com a máquina, o domínio da máquina, a soberania do homem sobre a máquina, a existência de vida extraterrestre, o encontro do homem com o extraterrestre, a interferência de entidades extraterrestres dotados de inteligência artificial (máquinas) na evolução do homem. Essa última parece se adequar mais ao filme. Mas, pode-se dizer que, para o diretor, a consciência humana jamais será subjugada pela máquina. Essa idéia está impressa tanto no momento em que HAL é desligado quanto na viagem de volta para casa/celebração da estrela embrionária como forma circular de vida orgânica: de uma vez só a forma do óvulo, do planeta e do ciclo evolutivo se materializam. 2001 é um filme de elipses e elas se fecham sempre no aparecimento do monólito, existindo também uma grande elipse entre a aurora do homem e o aparecimento da estrela embrionária. Mas não é só dentro do filme que aparecem as elipses, elas estão também, na vida real. Exatamente em 2001 veio às telas pelas mãos do Spielberg A. I. - Inteligência Artificial, antigo projeto de Kubrick sobre um robô-criança que lida com a rejeição do homem à máquina. Tirando a presepada de Spielberg na maior parte do filme, seria a evolução do homem um caminho à mistura entre orgânico e mecânico? Ou seria a nossa morte uma passagem para um estado consciência superior chamado por Nietzsche de "super-homem"? Respostas para tantas perguntas só quem sabe é Kubrick, afinal ele já passou para "além do infinito" e infelizmente não teve tempo de nos presentear com sua própria visão de Inteligência Artificial, que seria seu próximo projeto depois de De Olhos Bem Fechados.

Existem muitas outras influências e outros assuntos na obra de Kubrick e também em 2001, mas fico por aqui. Por fim, em uma ridícula, previsível e estapafúrdia elipse, 40 anos depois de o mundo ter visto a mais extraordinária obra cinematográfica de todos os tempos, escrevo essas palavras exasperadas, meio copiadas, meio concebidas, para dizer que me sinto grato por ter tido a chance de participar do que Kubrick chamou de "uma experiência intensamente subjetiva que alcançasse o espectador em níveis muito íntimos de consciência, como a música faz". Desta forma me sinto muito mais próximo do diretor do que poderia estar. Mas, afinal, não é essa a importância da arte? Como dizia o cartaz para atrair os hippies regados à LSD: "a viagem máxima". Agora, toda a vez que pego minha cópia de 2001 me preparo para uma ultimate trip. Mais do que todos os outros diretores, Kubrick fez de cada um de seus filmes uma dose cavalar de ultraviolência, nosso próprio tratamento ludovico. A questão é: você já tomou seu moloko com vellocet hoje? Eu já.

2001: Uma Odisséia no Espaço (2001: A Space Odyssey. Reino Unido, EUA, 1968)

Direção: Stanley Kubrick

Roteiro: Stanley Kubrick, Arthur C. Clarke

Elenco: Keir Dullea, Gary Lockwood, William Sylvester, Douglas Rain

Duração: 141 min.

www.imdb.com/title/tt0062622

Turtle Cove Beach, (龜背灣) is a cute little beach in Hong Kong! Not a very big beach and you could be able to walk from left to right of the beach within 5 minutes.  To me, its like a hidden treasure on the southern side of Hong Kong.  Due to its location (The lack of public transportation, 200-300 stairs downhill walk before reaching the beach), it has never been a popular beach!  However, because of this, Parking is relatively easy on a hot summer day!

龜背灣都算係水清沙幼既...

(Click On the Map for Google Map Locations)

How to get there: 

From Stanley, Driving towards Shek O and make a right turn towards Red Hill Peninsular.  The beach is along side Tai Tam Road and you should be able to see the road sign.

Facilities: Life guards, Barbeque area, vending machine, washing and changing area available there!

Official HK Water Quality

Tips for beaches: Try to avoid going to the beaches after heavy rain! Dirts from the land will be washed and drain towards the sea and may have polluted the water.

There is more to Stanley than the infamous market.  The pier was beautiful and made for great people watching.

But as this is a hunt for Mom pix, that's what I'm concentrating on. It looks like just about every period in her life was photographed! Which is really wonderful from a genealogy standpoint, but kinda hard to look at...

My Mom died at age 63 from pancreatic cancer. A few months prior to her death, she was healthy, active and full of life! Mom was a Registered Nurse and the Medical Officer of the Colorado Dept of Corrections Special Operations Response Team (SORT), their version of the SWAT team. In that capacity she was responsible for the safety and well-being of the other SORT members (who were all half her age!). As a member of the SORT, she was required to be certified just like the other team members in weapons, special tactics, hostage negotiations, all that. The works. Let me tell you, you didn't argue with my Mom!

Every summer she participated in the extended training held at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. She would come home back & blue, but gloriously happy! She loved her work! At first it bothered my Dad, as he was concerned for her safety. But after talking with other SORT members and seeing how happy she was, he was happy, too.

When my Mom was suddenly diagnosed with cancer on Christmas Eve, 1998, it was a bombshell, as you can imagine. She was in the process of retiring from the Colorado Dept of Correctons, and she and my Dad had plans all in place to travel around the country in their motorhome. As she was in pretty severe pain, the doctor prescribed a narcotic patch to be worn aound the clock. It controlled her pain really well, thank goodness, but the drug also made her a bit goofy. So in the last days and weeks of her life, conversation wasn't easy. Some of the things you might want to talk about in a situation like that couldn't be discussed.

Mom died on Feb 18, 1999, just about 7 weeks after she was diagnosed. She was alert up until about 3 days before she died, enough time to see all her family down here in Texas. About 10 days before she died, I went to Colorado and helped my Dad bring her down here in their motorhome so she could see everyone.

It was very hard for my Dad. 47 years of marriage is a long time! To this day, he can't talk about her without crying, as I am doing now...

Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say here is obviously to safeguard those precious family photos, but also never take your loved ones for granted.

Keep visiting: www.lifechums.com/ more Celebrities featuring Shortly .............

By the way...Thanks, footnoteMaven! If I washed those dishes, then they would get spoiled and expect to be washed every day!

This must have been a dream to work on .. you have to watch it several times as the attention to detail is quite something.

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dig my groove while my
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(next week tune in for a tribute to Stanley Kirk Burrell)
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Flatulenta
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Sa ne spalam pe dinti
Cimpoiul
Spaghetti
Sport

It used to be that you could rely on Stanley hand tools to stand up to a lot of use and give good service for years. Not any more. I've had Stanley saws that couldn't cut straight (poorly aligned teeth), Stanley tape measures that pulled apart after a couple of months, Stanley chisels with plastic handles that split when hit with a wooden mallet and now this. The screwdriver is about two years old and I was driving a screw into plywood, using a pilot hole, when the head of the screwdriver fractured into several pieces. It was part of a set of four and it's the third to fail in exactly the same way. So much for a quality product—especially when they were more expensive than most of the other screwdrivers I considered.

Please forward this on to anyone who may have this product!

From the CPSC website...

Stanley Furniture Recalls Cribs Due to Entrapment Hazard

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary recall of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed.

Name of Product: 2nd Nature Built to Grow Cribs

Units: About 1,200

Manufacturer: Stanley Furniture Company Inc., of Stanleytown, Va.

Hazard: The cribs could fail to meet a federal safety standard for crib dimensions. When the mattress support is in the middle setting, the space between the mattress and the crib could be too wide, posing an entrapment hazard to infants.

Incidents/Injuries: None reported.

Description: This recall involves the full size 2nd Nature Built to Grow cribs, model number 353-14-220. Model and serial numbers are located on the headboard. The crib is natural maple in color. Only the following serial numbers are included in the recall: 353-14-220-L-01, 353-14-220-L-02, 353-14-220-L-03, 353-14-220-L-04, 353-14-220-L-05, 353-14-220-L-06, 353-14-220-L-07, 353-14-220-L-08, 353-14-220-L-101, and 353-14-220-L-103. The recall does not include cribs sold after December 2007.

Sold at: Department and furniture stores from March 2006 through December 2007 for about $1,100.

Manufactured in: Slovenia

Remedy: Consumers should immediately stop using the crib in the middle mattress setting, and adjust it to the low or high setting. Contact Stanley Furniture to determine if the crib is subject to this recall, and if it is, to receive a free replacement crib headboard.

Consumer Contact: For additional information, contact Stanley Furniture toll-free at (888) 839-6822 between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. ET Monday through Friday, or visit the firm’s Web site at www.youngamerica.com

I have organised to go to our school and talk about what I should do and in what order (and to get my hands on my staff laptop).
I have also organised to see an apartment in Stanley, an area I didn't even see as an option. Sounds nice but transport to work may be the problem, according to the apartment owner, and may swing my decision away from there. Shame as it was from the direct owner so no fees to be paid to estate agents. My hunt will continue but I will go see it as it will give me a good idea on apartments.

My old friend Ian will put me up in his apartment in Ap Lei Chau and leave me to my own devices as he nips off home to Tasmania then on the 4th. I think I will meet up with an ISD staff member on 5thfor drinks (hope I can find where they want to meet!)

Anyway, I don't know if anybody is actually reading this but I'll treat it as a diary and to ramble on and try to be funny!

Next post, next stop, Hong Kong!

With no deaths or injuries caused the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission issued a voluntary recall which would suggest the danger is not a big one - still not good for brand image though!

The cribs recalled were all sold between March 2006 and December 2007 - wonder how/why got picked up now.....

Well yesterday I went to see the new hulk and I've got to say it really was Incredible.This movie is not a sequel it is a relaunch of the whole Hulk franchise as the 2003 hulk was a total disaster. The film starts of slow but it soon gets better. At first I wasn't too sure about Edward Norton at first but by the end of it I think he played the part of Bruce Banner great.

The film builds you up until you finally see the hulk in full action, which I must say looks superb, the visual effects are breathtaking at times. But don't get me wrong this isn't purely a smash up film its more of a brilliant portrayal of how Banner is trying to cope with what he becomes and how to control it.

The end fight scene is brilliant with the Hulk facing The Abomination, plus a cameo at the very end was surprising and what he says gives you some answers to a future marvel film, I won't give it away, just watch it and find out.

All together this film has been done how hulk should have been done all along, this wipes the floor with the 2003 version. I will defiantly getting this when it comes out on DVD.

Check out the trailer.

As the job goes, I had an interview yesterday that looks promising, I hope, and one next week I am excited about.  I have several more applications I am waiting to hear back on...so, we'll see.  I would like to have a job lined up for July 1st, but if something looks promising that does not start for a week or so after it, I think we can stretch our budget a little.  Otherwise, I will be looking at temp day jobs.

In the course of job hunting, Tori and I have had to do some talking about long term goals.  One of those is for me to finish my bachelors degree (I was pursuing a B.A. in History prior to starting my pastorate eight years ago).  I want to go on from there and get a Masters in History as well...then at some point I'd like to teach - on the college level if I can.

So here I am, amidst the job hunting - I am applying for school.  I have an orientation Monday morning at Boise State (now a famous school after their upset over the Sooners a couple years ago - funny, tuition has almost doubled since I was there last :( , not cool).  My schedule for school and how I am going to make this happen will depend upon the job I take.  Last time I was in school I was in my mid 20s and had a wife and one small child at home - our bills and expenses were negligible.  Now, I am in my mid 30s with a wife 3 kids at home and many more expenses.  Kinda frightening.

I love school, though, and I have constantly read over the last eight years.  It has been that study into Church History that lead me into Orthodoxy. Full-time job, full-time school, full-time dad and husband...whew, I thought I was busy now :)

Well, I am going to go watch some TV with my wife...I have been non-stop since this morning...

This area of the island was a nice escape from the everyday hustle and bustle of central Hong Kong.  It is far less polluted and there aren't many huge skyscrapers blocking the natural beauty that surrounds us.  As I said before we had a nice lunch outside at Sea Front.  I had an "American" burger which was slightly dissapointing because it was a cooked ground beef patty between two buns, with a mixed greens salad on the side and a pile of fries.  This is all fine and dandy but I would have liked to see atleast an onion or some mayo on my burger, but the fries were extremely delicious and the meat was seasoned well so I soon forgot about my lack of toppings.  I washed it all down with a Hoegaarden from the tap which was quite refreshing.

We walked around for awhile after lunch to discover what Stanley may have to offer and wound up in my favorite place in the whole wide world......the grocery store!  This one happened to be a Taste, one of the better local grocery stores.  I love the selection offered by the grocery stores in Hong Kong, especially compared to those typically found in the United States.  They had a great selection of fresh fish that you can buy the whole thing, or select a portion that you would like and they'll cut it up right there for you.

They also have a great selection of live seafood:

As well as ready to eat items:

After walking around Taste for awhile, we decided it would be a good idea to get some gelato seeing how the temperature just kept climbing.  We squeezed passed the running children into gino'sgelato where the intoxicating aroma of waffel cones filled the air.  They had a pretty good selection of gelato to choose from ranging from vanilla to mango ginger to tofu.  I would typically just go with the vanilla but my girlfriend Katie and I have been discussing my lack of joy when it comes to sweets and how vanilla is so plain. (Ok so she is pretty much just wierded out that I only eat vanilla ice cream.)  So with this in mind, and strawberry basil on the menu, I tried something new. Turns out that strawberry basil gelato is quite delicious, so long as you don't mind the taste of basil in the back of your throat for the next few hours.

Overall I had a great day in Stanley.  If you're ever in the area, give gino'sgelato a try and have yourself a scoop of strawberry basil.  You're in for a real treat.

Finding something new, one more reason to live to eat.